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Training dogs for water rescue? Newfies, Newf mixes, and other breeds?

More like a series of questions here:

1) Is training for water rescue for a Newfoundland dog extremely time- and labor-intensive or is it one of those things that's so bred into them that it almost happens naturally - like LGD's with guarding sheep or BC's with herding?

2) How long does it take to train a dog for water rescue, and what's a good age to start? What's the maximum age to start training a Newfie for water rescue? Is it possible to start at 1.5 years? 3 years?

3) Obviously purebred Newfies are bred for water rescue and are great at it. But could Newf mixes and huge Lab mixes be equally capable, or close to it?

4) What does one look for in evaluating the potential for a water rescue dog?

5) And, finally, what kind of tools do you need? Can you train a dog on a beach, or do you need, like... a boat or a pier or something?

Update:

Birddogg, thanks so much.

This isn't for either competition or helicopter jumping. I do dog rescue, and I was mostly wondering if it would be possible to train young large Lab and Newfie mixes - typically big black dogs that are hard to adopt out and are passed over in shelters - to do the kind of water rescue that would make them desirable to families with kids. No helicopter diving or boat towing required - just doggie lifeguarding.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    1. It depends on what level of training your talking about. There's working newfies and there's competiton/test newfies. Amongst the working ones there's newfies that swim off the beach and tow people in and there's newfies that jump out of helicopters and pull life rafts by a rope to safety.

    2. Pretty much the same as the first answer. The ideal age to start is 8-10 weeks. Arguably you can start at any age as long as the dog hasn't developed counterproductive habits like being deathly afraid of the water. The older they are when you start the longer it'll take and the less you'll be able to do with it.

    3. Labs are somewhat well suited for water rescue they just can't tolerate the same amount of cold or handle the same amount of work. A smaller dog is riskier because they are easier to submerge hence why newfies are so big. If your trying to compete, some events won't be open to mixes or non-newfies.

    4. Confidence and courage primarily. It's not for timid dogs. Obviously they have to be people oriented and huge fans of the water. The ones I've been around also had a quality to them that I guess you could best describe as focus. They aren't the goofy bumbling type, they are pretty observant. There's also a fine line between being biddable and being able to think for themselves. They have to mind their handlers but also not be 100% dependent on them.

    5. Again it depends on what level you are trying to get to. If you're talking rescues from a beach, then you need a beach. You can't teach them to jump out of helicopters with only a beach. Boats are always good for staging and if a problem arises. It's quite difficult to swim out and help a dog like that if there's a problem. A variety of points to enter the water from is a very good idea to prepare them for anything. You need someone to help you, both as victims/helpers, and someone that knows what they are doing. Lifevests are a necessity and by my recollection they train with a good variety of distractions at some stages like air horns.

    If you're trying to do the tests etc then the format should be available through the governing body. Take a look and see what's entailed.

    Source(s): Had a friend who was really into it
  • haltom
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    Newfie Rescue

  • koob
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    Water Rescue Dogs

  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

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  • 5 years ago

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  • Bob
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    The answer to most of your questions depends on the technique and quality of training and the trainer. I'd start by reading some books on how to train dogs generally, then on water rescue. In most Newfies and Labs, water rescue is a built-in feature!

  • Diane
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

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  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

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    Lv 4
    4 years ago

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  • ?
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

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